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meanwhile story in the "new york times" says the fbi was so concerned after president trump fired fbi director james comey that the bureau launched a counterintelligence investigation into the president himself. they were working to find out if trump was actually knowingly, unbelievably working to benefit the russian government. this extraordinary moment last night on trump friendly fox news, a show host asking the president point blank this yes or no question. >> are you now or have you ever worked for russia, mr. president? >> i think it's the most insulting thing i've ever been asked. i think it's the most insulting article i've ever had written. you see they found absolutely nothing if you read the article. >> we could play his entire answer but still after 20 minutes you won't hear the president flatly say whether he is working actively to help the russians. he doesn't say it. he doesn't answer it, yes or no.
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boris sanchez joins us from the white house right now. the president has been tweeting an awful lot today, a little about the democrats, a little bit about the snow, a little bit about syria. does the president have cabin fever on this wintry day there in washington? >> reporter: he certainly is taking to twitter, claiming that democrats are having fun while he is back here in washington, waiting for them to discuss a potential reopening of the federal government. president trump did not specifically address any of the details contained in those two reports, both in "the new york times" and the washington post. he did say in "the new york times" report that that was an insulting report. we should point out press secretary sanders put out two statements about both of these articles. she used very similar wording to describe them, in both cases dismissing them but then calling into question president obama's toughness saying president trump had been tougher on russia than obama.
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clearly we know at least publicly it's not been the case. you recall that president obama actually confronted vladimir putin publicly about russian election meddling in 2016, something president trump has not done. whether he has done that privately is another question all together. and president trump is apparently trying to take steps to keep his conversations with vladimir putin private. the president, as you noted, tweeted about the shutdown and syria, but no mention made of this as the shutdown continues, moving into its fourth week. and a new cnn poll shows the majority of americans blame the president for the shutdown. ana? >> you're also getting details firsthand from your sources inside the white house about how the president and his acting chief of staff, mick mulvaney, are getting along. what are you hearing? >> a source a short while ago confirming to me a story first reported in axios about an exchange president trump had with his new acting chief of
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staff at a meeting in the situation room with leadership, republicans and democrats. mulvaney was apparently negotiating the $1.3 billion that democrats had offered for border security funding when the president told him this, quote. stop, stop. just stop. what are you doing? you're f'ing it all up, mick. that's according to a source that was in the room that told me there was no reaction among anyone else in that room. the white house says -- responded to the axios reporting that it is an overblown exaggeration as to what actually happened. the source also indicates that democrats have been poking at the new acting chief of staff, suggesting that he's enjoying this government shutdown. so the new acting chief of staff getting it from all sides. we should point out, the president, according to previous reporting, has acted this way towards aides and officials before. mick mulvaney getting initiated
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to the chief of staff position, getting to know president trump very well. ana? >> baptism by fire. boris sanchez at the white house. thanks. >> let's bring in cnn contributor, author of the "the threat matrix" and also with us, ellie hoenig. let me start with you, ellie. these two reports back-to-back, they seem to reinforce each other, do they not? >> yeah, they do. efforts to keep the truth from coming to light. "new york times" tells us about the efforts to -- the fbi open to counterintel investigation because they believed that trump fired comey to prevent him from digging into the russia case and telling the interpreter to keep quiet, to keep the truth from coming to light. and we're about to begin the confirmation hearings for william barr, the attorney
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general, number one job in this country responsible for bringing truth to light. the problem with william barr, he sent this long memo to doj where he attacks robert mueller generally, but specifically the obstruction of justice investigation. he calls it fatally misconceived and earlier barr said that the obstruction investigation is assanin senators really need to dig into that. they really cannot accept maly mouth, dodgy, coached-up, lawyered-up answers. >> let me talk more about barr here. as you put it all nicely in one package, it does show that obstruction is a big piece potentially of mueller's investigation. garret, you're sort of our mueller expert. on the washington post reporting, pertaining to his
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meetings with putin are of interest to mueller? >> absolutely. the bigger thing is elie is saying here, the pattern. you even look at the interview that the president did last night, you know. if i was being accused of being a russian agent i would be much more annoyed about being accused of being a russian agent than i would be the investigation itself. that's not what we're seeing from the president, you know. it would be easy for him to come out and deny this. what we have to, you know, almost assume at this point is that the president and his campaign were compromised by russia in some meaningful way that is not yet clear. that's the evidence that we're seeing, sort of pattern after pattern, both from the staff and the president's own actions. this is a president who, in many ways, has gone out of his way to continue to be soft on russia and vladimir putin, to continue to be complimentary to vladimir
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putin, up to and including that astounding helsinki summit, the subject of part of that washington post report where the president met privately with putin and basically came out on the stage with vladimir putin and complimented putin and questioned the american intelligence community. >> garret, do you know congress tried to question that interpreter? >> that's a very complicated answer. and there are some legitimate executive privilege concerns stemming from the idea that presidents need to be able to have some private conversations with foreign leaders and that's not necessarily a precedent that we should want to set as a democracy and as a government but you do have to look at the pattern of behavior here which this is a president who knows
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that these questions are being raised about his behavior with russia vis-a-vis vladimir putin and is still going out of his way to have these incredibly odd, one on one no staff conversations with the leader of russia. >> elie, is that executive privilege going to end up being the president's best defense? >> it may be. i do think congress is going to try to subpoena the interpreter. adam schiff said it straight up. last congress they were outvoted. now he said we're going to want to talk to her. the only way to resist that is through a claim of executive privilege. it's an interesting claim. executive privilege is meant to accept and keep secret conversations between the president and his close advisers, attorney general, counsel, chief of stachlt. it would be quite a stretch to say that should also include his conversations with foreign heads of state. they're not advisers. we would be really stretching that. garret has a good point. there say legitimate interest in
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keeping confidential, high-level diplomatic conversations. the nixon decision from 1974 when the court said yes, executive privilege exists but no, it doesn't apply to this position. what they did say in 1974, it's intended to protect military secrets, national security secrets. there may be a creative argument that trump could make that we need to expand executive privilege to cover this kind of conversation. >> as we bring in david gergin who many of you know at home has worked in four white houses. thank you, david. i'm so glad you can be part of the conversation tonight with this extraordinary reporting here. we're talking about what the washington post is reporting about the president's efforts to really conceal his interactions with the russian president. in fact, even confiscating notes from one of his interpreters. have you ever heard or experienced such a thing with other presidents? >> no. and i worked for president
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nixon, and we never had anything like this. i must say, ana, if you combine the story in "the washington post" that you just talked about, along with "the new york times" reporting, about the fact that the fbi opened this counterterrorism investigation, if i were in the white house, i would be terribly worried. i would be terribly worried not just about my president. i would be worried about the office of the presidency, which i think is threatened in this situation. it's almost like a spy thriller that we're going through. it's just unbelievable that we would be here. i also would be worried about the country because i think this could be very damaging to us as americans if this unravels and the patterns that seem to be developing -- the patterns are very, very suspicious. and "the washington post" i would commend a new piece by max boot, a contributor to cnn, on all the reasons why we should be suspicious, all the things, the
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alignments of president trump and vladimir putin again and again and again. it's a really arresting piece. >> david, what typically happens with the notes that are part of these meetings, that document what happens taken place? >> sure. well, first and foremost, they are shared with the principles committee, which is essentially the secretary of state, secretary of defense, cia director, the white house chief of staff, the national security adviser, the head of the joint chiefs. all those people need to know what's going on. there has to be a transparency. those are the top people, the top circle around the president on national security. and they are typically shared with them for informational purposes so they know, you know, what the other side is thinking very importantly, but they also know what our president is say ing and pledging. and so it is -- i can go back to the nixon time, sometimes he would hold a one on one meeting
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with the russians and only have an interpreter there. but since then, the tradition has been one of sharing, of more transparency because we have such a complicated government with so many different sprawling relationships that really makes a difference that people are brought up to speed. after all, these are the people we trust with the utmost secrets of the government. to trust them with that is no stretch at all. it is traditionally what is done. head of brookings worked with president clinton on many occasions. he was the note taker. he and president clinton had been long-time colleagues and friends and he would take these notes in meeting after meeting that clinton had with the russians and those would religiously be shared with others and then they would go into a master file for a variety of reasons, for comparative
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purposes. if you doesn't know what your president is saying or thinking, you have no sense of how relationships develop or how the russians are trying to play him. at the end of the day is what this is all about. have the russians played him? has they turned him into what they used to call a useful idiot? >> and wonder if the russians can spin the narrative that they want. >> absolutely. >> from those meetings without being able to prove something different happened. david guergin, elie hoenig, garret graff, thank you. next, i'll talk to a furloughed nasa engineer who says the lack of a paycheck is about to cost her much more than a month's pay. you're live in the cnn newsroom.
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pay stubs say literally zero dollars. they're getting nothing right now, even be though some are still having to put gas in their cars, show up for work, afford lunch while they're there, pay for child care and make it all the way home. the president knew this could happen and said he would be proud of it. >> i am proud to shut down the government for border security, chuck. >> later, when federal employees just started realizing that the money in their pockets was all they were going to have for a while, the president was asked about a potential safety net. here is how he answered. >> you're saying months and possibly a year for this shutdown. do you have in mind a safety net for those who need their checks? >> the safety net is going to be having a strong border because we're going to be safe. many of the people you're discussing, i really believe that they agree with what they're doing. >> safety net is a strong
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border. but how does that help people buy food, pay their mortgages, afford daycare? >> it's quite possible even if we open this week, i don't see a paycheck before the first of february. where is my rent going to come from? >> i am a single mom. my son just graduate d. his first two years of college, he's going back. i'm not getting paid. i just bought a house. i'm not not going to be able to pay my mortgage. >> i have enough for one more mortgage payment and i have to go to carmax tomorrow and sell my car. >> you're going to sell your car? >> i have to. >> i am going to have to figure out what i'm going to do to sustain my lifestyle and just to be able to eat, honestly. >> quick update, the woman who said she needed to sell her car tried to and the dealership wouldn't buy it. now again, the billionaire president was asked if he can relate to these struggling workers. >> i can relate, and i'm sure that the people that are on the
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receiving end will make adjustment. they always do, and they'll make adjustment. people understand exactly what's going on. but many of those people that won't be receiving a paycheck, many of those people agree 100% with what i'm doing. >> not only does the president say he can relate, but there's that claim again, that federal workers support this shutdown. is that really the case? >> i don't feel like it's worth shutting down the entire government over something that certainly is not going to solve an immediate crisis, because it's going to take at least ten years probably before any wall would be fully built. so it doesn't seem like it's really solving any immediate crisis. >> i'm tired of having this president make decisions that, you know, he could have had passed over the last two years, that he has decided this is a crisis. there is no crisis on that border.
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it's a manufactured crisis by a mad man. >> those are just two federal workers. we can't interview all 800,000 of them and ask them individually whether or not they're okay with giving up their paycheck in order to get a border wall. i did talk to one border patrol agent this weekend who does support t even those who support this shutdown are hurting, too. they're going without pay just like everyone else. this week the president was asked when could these workers see some relief. >> realistically, how long do you think the shutdown will last? >> that, i can't tell you. all i can tell you is that i feel very badly for people who have family members that have been killed. that should have never happened. those are the people i'm thinking most about. >> the president may not know when the shutdown will end, but the federal workers know one thing for sure. no wall, no paycheck. one of those people who didn't get a paycheck on friday, nasa engineer trashonda motin, who
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joins us now. i know it was a very wintry commute for you. extra thanks for making that effort. what's the biggest concern you have right now? >> well, the biggest concern for me has been most recently i have a mortgage that is -- well, i have a pending mortgage settlement coming up at the end of january. january 31st. and as i met with my loan officer this week, i talked to him and i also talked to his supervisor and they were not really, i guess, understanding the gravity of this until i brought it to their attention. as it turns out the furlough is going on longer than expected. they were not really concerned at first. what's necessary for me to close on my home is a pay stub that shows gafl employment, dollars not zeros. that's important in order for me to close on the house. if i don't have pay stubs that
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show that for the past 30 days as of january 31st -- which it doesn't look like -- that means my closing will be delayed and that will cause hardship for me because i'm also scheduled to move out of my apartment on the 1st of february immediately following that. >> oh, my. >> so in addition to the hardship of not having the funds available because my paycheck is missing, to secure the movers, to prepare for the move, to take care of the extra expenses that i'll need for closing, i also don't have the assurance. i don't know what's going to happen. i don't know if i'm going to be able to close. they're talking about provisions they might be able to make. there's conversations being had as late as yesterday with their underwriters but i don't know what's happening. they're all hoping this ends before the 31st. >> so are we. this sounds incredibly stressful. how long are you prepared to go without a paycheck? >> well, i don't know. i mean, i have some funds saved for myself, but i also assist
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with family. and i also, as i said, a lot of my money is tied up in this home purchase i'm about to do. i've worked really hard to pay down my debts, to take care of expenses that i need for this. i also spent a lot of time and energy planning for this house. i mean, i've lived here now eight years, finally decided to, you know, find a home here that i want to purchase and to be at this state after having searched for a home for about a year and found a place i want to move to and have all the things in place in terms of credit, in terms of funds available and the preapproval for the loan is there as well, to now not be able to do it just because i don't have a paycheck to show gafl employment. that's really disheartening. >> do you have a backup plan if this shutdown keeps going on for weeks, months even? other work, other ways to make money? >> well, i was just talking about that today with a friend.
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i'm also a florist. i have a floral business. it's not thriving because i don't have time to put into it. i might have to start doing weddings or something. it's outside of what i do normally. i'm an aerospace engineer at nasa. that's the job i like to do, that's the job i came here for and the job i got hired to do. that's what i'm paid to do typically. so, that's the job that i took for the security within the federal government as opposed to having something that wasn't secure. so it's really disappointing we're at this place where working for the federal government doesn't seem like it's becoming favorable. i don't know what's happening for other people outside of my agency, but i represent the union as well. i'm a vice president for our union and i'm hearing from a lot of our employees about real hardships they're having. i have other responsibilities. one guy had to cancel his daughter's surgery this week.
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another guy can't have his dental surgery at the end of the month because he doesn't know if he'll have money for the co-payment because he has to save and pay some power bills. i'm going to be faced with similar things. i need to talk to my creditors and say hey, we're furloughed. can't make all my payments if we're getting zero paycheck. if this continues it won't be good for anybody. it's not going well for a lot of peopl people. >> i'm glad you're able to shed some light on to the reality of this situation that you're in. keep your head up. we hope that loan comes through. we hope the shutdown ends soon. tryshanda moton, thank you very much. >> news just in from california now. l.a. teachers won't be at work tomorrow after union talks break down and educators agree to a strike. what this means for more than 600,000 student there is. you're live in the cnn newsroom. d from capital one.
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two bombshell reports darkening that cloud over the white house this weekend. "new york times" dropped the first one friday, reporting that the fbi was so concerned by the president's actions before and after he fired fbi director james comey that it began investigating whether he might be working for the russians. second, the washington post revealing today that there are no records of the president's five known face-to-face meeting with president putin because trump went to extraordinary lengths to hide them, the paper reports. in at least one instance, president trump reportedly took possession of the notes himself
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and told his interpreter not to discuss what happened with any administration officials. i want to bring in our national security analyst, who served as the assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. juliette, on friday night when we learned that the fbi had opened an investigation into whether trump was a russian asset you said this, quote, how would a president compromised by russians behave? give me any moment in the last two years where trump has behaved differently. and now we've learned that trump has allegedly gone to extreme le lengths to conceal his conversations with putin. what say you now? >> second story by greg miller of "the washington post" about how trump tried to essentially hide the information of the discussions that we know about, right? there might be others, but that we know about between him and putin just adds to the list of unusual, weird -- i don't know. give it the adjective you
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want -- behavior that trump shows only when it comes to russia and only when it comes to putin. yes, we have sanctions against russia right now. did trump embrace those? no, he fought them until congress actually passed them and his administration delayed them. does he support nato? no. nato is very concerned about the rise of russia. look at helsinki. did that look like a moment, a person tough on russia? no. it looked like someone who put russia's interests ahead of the united states. so the combination of his conduct, the hiding of the notes, the -- you know, attempting to undermine the mueller investigation and the firing of comey with the policy that he is enforcing against russia was my main point, which is tell me what an uncompromised president would do and trump has done the exact opposite, consistently. >> well, trump allies say in this case, according to "the washington post" reporting that he tried to conceal some of these conversations because of
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leaks. but did he actually, perhaps, expose the u.s. and himself to more vulnerability because russia could then have complete control of the narrative of what happened in their discussions? >> exactly. there's only one narrative right now, and that's owned by the russians and possibly other foreign intelligence agencies that know something about what happened in those meetings. you and i don't know. more importantly, let's say, congress doesn't know or the gang of eight. the committee does not know what happened. to this day we still do not know what trump promised putin in the helsinki meeting or why he behaved that way in the press conference after. this whole notion that trump, who offends his entire team, who people are a revolving door, that he will establish some rapport, it's ridiculous at this stage. he does not do this with other
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national leaders. there are teams around him. this is a case study of one and we have to ask ourselves why. so their defense doesn't hold water because trump doesn't do the one-on-ones with no notes with any other leader. >> do you think that now this reporting really validates the fbi's investigation? >> i did. first, let me be among those who say we have no idea what mueller's report will actually show but what we can conclude from this weekend's reporting is that the idea that there's three different pieces to the mueller campaign, financial dealings between trump, ivanka, jared and the russians, the collusion during the campaign and the third piece, obstruction of justice. the idea that there are three different is no longer true anymore. i think what we've learned from the initiation of the
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counterintelligence investigation by the fbi is that all three of them are, in some ways, connected. and i personally think that what mueller is heading to is not only the indictments -- remember, there may be more, right? he's going to -- there may be more coming down the pike. >> right. >> but also a report that discloses the extent to which trump and his family are compromised by the russians. it will be up to senate republicans to look at themselves and what the country needs when they get that report. >> juliette kayyem thank you for your perspective. good to see you. crisis or not even for those living along the southern border, there is no consensus over what needs to be done. up next, cnn takes you to south texas to hear straight from the people who live there. you're live in the cnn newsroom. -jamie, this is your house? -i know, it's not much, but it's home. right, kids? -kids? -papa, papa! -[ laughs ]
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the trump administration insists there is an emergency along the border. are what we seeing on the ground in concert with that? >> reporter: thousands of people walking back and forth across the river every day. life is laid back. no sign of a crisis here. but up and down the southern u.s. border, tension is growing and many residents feel threatened by the trump administration's push for a border wall. in the past week, armando rios jr. noticed pink survey markers pop up in his neighborhood. >> we're actually a block and a half away from the river. you can see the border patrol right there, patroling. >> reporter: city officials tell us these markers are the beginning of planning for 12 miles of steel see-through fence that would be built right through the city. rios says he occasionally sees
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migrants crossing but it doesn't bother him. >> it's not a crisis. it is -- we would say it is occasional problem but not a crisis. actually i do feel safe. we actually don't even lock our doors. the doors are always open. we don't fear getting robbed or anything. >> reporter: rios told us he even removed some of these markers put in the ground by government contractors. since president trump has taken office, some new border structure has gone up. last year he signed an executive order that allocated $73 million to build this, 23-mile stretch here in new mexico. the question is, is it a wall or is it a fence and does that question even really matter? according to customs and border protection officials there are currently eight border wall projects already in the works, covering about 120 miles. the trump administration's request for $5 billion more would pay for an additional 215
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miles of new or replacement fencing in various locations along the southern border. that could include areas like this, where miles of longstanding wall abruptly end, but critics of the wall also say there are vast regions of the southern border that are so remote and filled with rugged terrain, a wall is unnecessary. this man lives in el paso, where a border fence stretches through much of the city. he says trump is right to shut down the government to get border wall funding in hopes of controlling illegal immigration. >> this certainly doesn't end it. it will never be end ed or stopped completely but it certainly has slowed it down significantly compared to what it was, you know, before the wall was here. >> i'm 68 years old and i've never had any sort of problems with these people. >> reporter: this man and his family have owned 64 acres of land in mission, texas, along
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the rio grand since the 1950s. they live off the rent money dozens pay to live on the water's edge. when they say we need a wall here, what do you say to that? >> it's just money spent that it won't help for us. it's not going to help. the wall is not going to help at all. >> construction of a border wall is slated to start in february, which will leave their property sitting in a no man's land between the wall and the river, essentially cut off from the united states. >> so you're running out of time? >> yes. what can you do? you can't fight the government. we're trying. we're trying to stop them to stall a little but we can't stop the government. they'll do what they want to do. >> that was ed lavendera reporting. dramatic 911 tapes revealing a shocking discovery the moment health care workers discovered a patient in a coma for more than 20 years had given birth.
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after nearly two years of talks, teachers in the country's second largest school district plan to go on strike tomorrow. united teachers of los angeles have been fighting for smaller class sizes and higher pay. this say district, mind you, with more than 600,000 students. negotiations hit a deadlock friday. officials say classes will continue tomorrow even without approximately 32,000 teachers
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and staff members. terrifying moments as a caller tells 911 operators a woman in a vegetative state has just given birth to a baby and, get this, no one had even realized the woman was pregnant. >> reporter: a woman calls 911 from inside the health care skilled nursing facility. a patient in a vegetative state has just given birth and the baby isn't breathing. >> the baby is turning blue. >> where are you at? >> the baby is turning blue. >> ma'am, i need an address. >> is is it a house or an apartment? >> it's a facility. >> i'm going to get paramedics on the line. you need to give them the address. >> you can hear the panic in the caller's voice. she initially fails to even give
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the address where the ambulance can find them. then you hear a stunning admission. the caretakers did not know their patient was pregnant. >> were you able to get the baby out? is the baby breathing? the baby is not breathing. >> are they doing cpr? >> yeah, they are doing cpr. >> just keep going with that. how is mom doing? >> mom is doing well. it looks like she's doing well. >> we had no idea this person was pregnant. we had no idea the patient was pregnant. >> does she know how far along she was? >> we have no idea. this is a complete surprise. we were not expecting this. >> cnn obtained court records showing the patient was in vegetative state since 1992. she has a breathing tube and feeding tube and court records indicate she's unable to make any decisions or give consent. police made clear this is a sexual assault case and they are already collecting dna samples.
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the medical facility says that includes dna from its male staffers. >> this woman was unable to move. she was unable to communicate. in other words, she was helpless, but she was incapacita incapacitated. >> they were told it was a full-term pregnancy. documents reveal the same doctor who has been examining her since 2009 did an external well woman exam on april 16, 2018, noting her firm belly. but she would not have been visibly pregnant at the time. about nine months later, she gave birth on december 29th. >> the baby is breathing. >> okay. that's the baby in the background? >> the baby is cry canning. >> good. you guys did great. >> mother and baby were take ton the hospital where they have been recuperating from the birth. their family hails from here, a couple hours from. the facility on the san carlos
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tribe reservation. the family says the baby is a boy and he will be loved and cared for, but they are outraged for what they call the abuse and neglect of their daughter. the story has evoked fear in some of the families of other patients in the facility. >> we were just so scared because who knows what would happen if it was a staff member, family member, stranger, we have no idea. >> what did you decide to do personally to make sure your daughter inside is safe? >> i stay here 24/7 now. >> the board of directors called the situation horrifying and said the facility is fully cooperating with the investigation. but for karina, who has a 22-year-old severely brain damaged daughter inside, she has lost all trust and is trying to get her daughter care elsewhere as soon as possible. sara sidner, cnn, phoenix. president trump pushing back at those calling his wall a medieval solution. up next, our jake tapper reminds
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president trump's border wall dominated the headlines and set off the longest shutdown in u.s. history. while critics call the idea medieval shs the president is running with that theme. here's our jake tapper. >> reporter: president trump agrees a wall is not a new idea. >> they say it's a medieval solution. that's true. medieval because it worked then and works even better now.
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>> there are other medieval ideas the president might want to try out. leeches for the sniffles we heard the other night. maybe a border mote. >> it's tremendously big and tremendously wet. tremendous amounts of water. >> maybe the government shutdown could be resolved by a sword fight between lord mcconnell and lady pelosi. the president has long embraced medieval themes. just the other day he used a meme from the fantasy tv show ""game of thrones" tweeting this image, the wall is coming, as references go for public policy we should note that "game of thrones" is a show that features ice zombies and dragons. also spoil er alert, the show's famous great wall protecting west from the hoards of ice zombies fell at the end of lst season. >> not since the medieval times has anything happened like this. >> reporter: we should note the
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embrace of medieval times whether real or fantasy fiction does capture a certain spirit of this era. >> if using this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention. >> they say a wall is medieval. so is a wheel. a wheel is older than a wall. a wheel works and a wall works. >> that's going to do it for me. thank you for being here. the premier of "american style" starts now. how you live and what your values are, that's what style is. >> style is is how you surround yourself. >> it's each generation finding their identity. >> have you ever broken any rules? >> i'm looking at the '40s and '50s. there's a tremendous


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